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Originally Posted by pilotbob
Sigh... I never had problems with the start screen. It's basically is a start menu. Although, in Win7 99% of the programs I used I pin to the task bar... and the rest I hit window key, typed in the name, (maybe arrow to it) and press enter to run it... which works exactly the same in Windows 8. Windows 8.1 start screen is even more Start menu like too.
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Having to go to a new screen to get to the start menu is what I mean by unintuitive. Of course, this is on the rare occasion it isn't pinned, or else run from the command line.
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Originally Posted by pilotbob
Um, not true. Windows 8 cold start is much faster than Windows 7. There is no RAM when the PC is off.
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I didn't say there is RAM running, I said they save it to disk. Technically it's some sort of hybrid hibernate function. Details
HERE. Nevertheless, if you do a restart rather than shut down -- or you apply Windows Updates, which usually makes you reboot, you will notice it takes just as long. I borrowed a brand new Win8 laptop and played around with it for several days trying to see what's special about it. If you do that kind of shutdown -- or disable fastboot -- it takes just as long as the Win7 machines I use.
And when a Win7 laptop ran out of battery power, it "saved the RAM to disk" as well, before powering down, achieving the exact same effect as Win8 fastboot. I wonder... could you get some sort of hack to use this in a custom shutdown script...
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I strongly disagree with this. In fact a large percentage of laptop's have touch screens now.. and it will probably be a very rare laptop made post 2013 that doesn't have a touch screen. So, that is what EVERYONE will be buying.
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If by large percentage you mean 10-15%, but we're not quite at the big numbers yet, so until then, well, the majority of laptops are NOT touch-enabled, which makes Win8 a nightmare.
Nor is it a given that post-2013 non-touch laptops will be rare -- unless things change very fast, we will probably just see them become more mainstream.
An interesting read:
http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtm...d=0110014L1BJ1
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You "would" or you do. Do you have a laptop with a touch screen? It's really hard to say that unless you've tried it. Actually, moving your hand from the keyboard to the screen to scroll or tap an on screen link/button is actually less motion. When you try it for a week, get back to me and let me know... of course everyone is different as you say.
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No I don't, but I can't imagine how how it is less motion to scroll than sliding my finger down the mouse, which is a movement total of .4 inches, and the average movement to click on a link is only a couple inches. Frankly, any movement that involves taking your hand off the mouse and moving to the screen will by definition require much more movement -- and that is something I can test out even without a touchscreen -- granted, I don't get the excitement of controlling my computer like that, but the distance formula stays relatively constant.