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Originally Posted by Jellby

Searchable and readable if the font is not used or available (for whatever reason). And all this began because you were complaining (among other things) of your words breaking between lines without a hyphen

Actually, not exactly -- my mentioning that was because I mentioned that my ebook will only work correctly in iBooks, and Tex2002ans then asked me "May I ask what you are using in your book that only works in iBooks?", and so that's how I then mentioned the font issue. I started this thread to inquire about where to put the font EULA (hence the subject here, of course), all this other stuff came up rather inadvertently.

And it would be easier for you to edit the book, and it would be possible to copy-paste, etc.

I don't need to edit it anymore, there's nothing that's going to be changing as far as what the text "says".

The problem is not the font per se, but the fact that, in order to use the font as you want, you have to alter the text in such as way that it is only readable with this particular font. If you are fine with that, go on, no policeman will be knocking at your door, but you should be aware of the possible problems.

I just don't have much choice! To create what I want to create, I need a font that LOOKS good (and looks like it's from that period in printing history), includes both roman and italic, and has a nice bunch of ligatures -- and, of course, is free and embeddable. This JSL font is the only one that I know of like that, that meets that criteria -- and I've looked around, a lot, for years and years.

Do not assume that "nobody will want to search",

I didn't quite say that -- or mean that, in the sense you mean. As I've said before, my book is in two parts/halves -- both the exact same text. One half is regular, modern English (with no weird "font stuff" happening), and the other half is the same thing transliterated into late-Modern English and typeset according to rule/practices of the time. No matter what font I might choose to do the latter in -- even if the font is all "correct" (as per your specs) -- then if a person was to search for, say, the word "universe", they would find it in the modern half of the book, but in the "olde" half of the book it would be typeset as "vniuerse".

I find it highly unlikely that someone would be doing a search for "vniuerse", let alone any of the other, far more odd spellings and variations of words. And if for some crazy reason they really wanted to find it, well, they could search for it in plain, modern English, find it in the modern half, and then easily go find the equivalent page in the "olde" half.

or "no one will ever copy paste that",

Even if they could, I'll repeat again that that part/half of my book is meant as a visual thing -- even if it was copy/pastable, no matter what font I set it in, unless they have that font on their system it's not going to come out the same in whatever other program they're pasting into.

or "no sane person would use a text-to-speech with this".

I seriously doubt that there's a text-to-speech reader that can "speak" in late-Middle English.

The world is full of weird people

Indeed -- and I guess I'm one of them, so why not cheer me on?

Not a real issue, I was simply calling your attention on this particular problem, it's up to you to decide whether it's important enough for you.

Like I said, there's no other way to do it -- that's the only font that does what I want to do (that I'm aware of, after years of looking for fonts like that).

That, and the nitpicker in me wanting the world to be perfect

Yes, but at least you're "self-aware."

If the font license permits it, I'm willing to have a go at "fixing" it... I might even use it myself

I'm not sure what it is that you're offering to "have a go at" or "fix", but in any case here's what the EULA for that font says in that regard...

"JSL Ancient and JSL Ancient Italic are copyright (c) 1997-2000 by
Jeffrey S. Lee. Permission is granted to freely distribute them,
provided that they are distributed unaltered, both the roman and italic
versions are distributed together, and they are accompanied by this text
file."

If you're curious to see/have this font, it's easy enough to find -- just search for "JSL Ancient" and it comes up right away.

(check the Gulliver PDF if you don't believe it).

Oh, I believe you, don't worry! I can see that you have a better handle on this stuff than most people do. Again, I appreciate the input -- but like I said, I don't really see much way around this, to do things differently than I have.

And as I pointed out at the beginning of my reply here, this isn't even why I started this whole thread -- all this font stuff just came up "by accident" rather inadvertently. It wasn't an "issue" for me anymore -- I've been quite happy with how things have turned out. It's just a shame that the JSL Ancient font would appear to be the only font that meets my needs and that my ebook (as it is now) will only work in iBooks. It could work in other platforms, I'm quite sure, if only they paid heed to that CSS "nowrap" styling. If you ask me, that's a far bigger issue that they (non-iBooks platforms) have -- in not allowing what is actually a fairly simple, straightforward and, indeed, rather important feature of CSS that undoubtedly many, many people might want to make use of -- than any font issue that I have.