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Old 10-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by mrmikel View Post
Here is a book I have been working on. Its footnotes are not extensive, so I have just included the footnote following the paragraph. I have uploaded the original pdf too.
Thank you for the PDF/EPUB.

Perhaps we just had different definitions of what an "in-line" citation is. I always thought they went along smack dab in the middle of the paragraphs, surrounded by () or [].

In the case of this book, it has all numbered notes as Endnotes, and tiny Footnotes that are marked with asterisks at the bottom of the page.

You seem to have just placed it between paragraphs:

This is the case I mentioned above, where you could go a few ways:
  • Try to match the look of the original document
    • Your .9em at the end of the paragraph seems fine to me.
      • See potential situation below (marked with NOTE).
  • Move the asterisk/daggers to the endnotes in between the numbers they appeared.
    • This is the method that I personally use, so that all footnotes are in the same area.

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Originally Posted by mrmikel View Post
Let me know what you think. When the footnotes are at the bottom of the physical page, it means they would be several epub pages away and nearly always break a paragraph.
Of course, I would never break a paragraph just to stick a footnote in the "exact placement as in the physical text". If you would go the method of sticking it in the text, your placement seemed perfect to me (combine the paragraph which flows onto the next page, and add the footnote right after).

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<p>On 5 July 1944 Maj. Gen, Robert C. Macon's 83d Infantry Division was ordered to attack in the Carentan Peninsula to seize the town of Santeny. The attack by the division, which had been badly handled by the enemy the previous day, began inauspiciously when several rounds from the ten-minute artillery preparation landed on friendly troops, causing a regimental executive officer to report frantically that the artillery was '"slaughtering our 3d Batta1ion."<a href="#fn9" id="ft9">[9]</a> The incident did not precipitate disaster, but less than two weeks later, shortly before the St. Lô breakout, the CP of one of the 83d Infantry Division's infantry battalions was nearly obliterated by 155~mm howitzer rounds fired by the 957th Field Artillery Battalion. The incident occurred when one of the computers<a href="#fnast1" id="ftast1">[*]</a> in the 957th's Fire Direction Center (FDC) relayed the wrong charge (he said, “‘Charge 4,"' when the mission was computed “‘Charge 5”) to the firing battery. Corrective action was subsequently taken to avoid such human errors: computers were to repeat aloud to the battalion S-3 the instructions given to the batteries by telephone.<a href="#fn10" id="ft10">[10]</a></p>

<p class="fn"><a href="#ftast1" id="fnast1">[*]</a>a soldier, not a machine</p>

<p>The lines of the opposing forces in Normandy were frequently so close that the use of artillery was limited so as not to strike friendly forces.<sup>11</sup> Nevertheless, several units experienced cases of artillery amicicide during the early weeks of the fighting on the Continent. A nighttime raid by a platoon of the 117th Infantry (30th Infantry Division) in late June 1944 into the town of Font-du-St. Fromond near Airel on the Vire River was disrupted by friendly artillery fire, demonstrating the difficulty of coordinating fires at night in the hedgerow country.<sup>12</sup> Similarly, the attack of a battalion of the 8th Infantry (4th Infantry Division) on the town of La Chapelle-en-Juger following the Operation COBRA bombing of 25 July 1944 was brought to a halt by friendly artillery fire.<sup>13</sup></p>
Personally, when I run into books with a mix of numbers + symbols, I just move the symbols notes with the rest of the footnotes. In this case, the asterisk note would be between endnote 9 + 10, and do a link back and forth from text/note:

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<p><a href="#ft9" id="fn9">[9]</a> Blumenson, Breakout and Pursuit, p. 84.</p>

<p class="fn"><a href="#ftast1" id="fnast1">[*]</a>a soldier, not a machine</p>

<p><a href="#ft10" id="fn10">[10]</a> Interview with Brig. Gen. James L. Collins, Jr., a former US Army Chief of Military History, who then commanded the 957th FA Battalion, 10 April 1980 at Fort Leavenworth, KS.</p>
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Originally Posted by phossler View Post
Since this is only to make something more readable for me, MY house rules will be to choose the style that make sense one book at a time.
The way that mrmikel handled it seems fine to me.

NOTE: Although if there are a massive amount of them, I would just be be aware of the placement of all symboled notes in the middle of paragraphs.

You might have an asterisk on page 6 pointing to the last paragraph on the page, and an asterisk on page 7 pointing to the first paragraph, and a dagger on page 7 pointing to the second paragraph.

So you will have [..] + Last of page 6 + ASTERISK + first of page 7 + ASTERISK + second of page 7 + DAGGER + [...]

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Originally Posted by phossler View Post
A footnote spanning 7 pages is a book in it's own right
That one hurt my eyes to piece together.

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Originally Posted by phossler View Post
I'm lucky that I have no fussy customers to please
Indeed. Luckily those who I work with seek ME out for quality conversion, and they listen to reason!!! (Actually, most of them just say "just do what you have been doing, I trust your judgement.")

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