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Old 09-25-2013, 06:17 PM   #206
Sil_liS
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Originally Posted by holymadness View Post
Nope, I call it what it is. There is exactly zero evidence of Apple deliberately creating artificial shortages for marketing purposes. If you have any, produce it. There are also zero compelling reasons to believe they would do so. I always read this theory on the internet promoted by people who think they've caught on to some scheme, but it just sounds like a stupid idea a person would come up with in a comedy caper movie. Not being able to satisfy consumer demand is a much bigger hit to your stock price and reputation than any news report about pre-orders being sold out. This just doesn't happen. There is no traction in it.
The stock price goes up when the demand is higher. Sold out means demand-higher-than-expected.

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Actually, you don't know anything about Apple's manufacturing process, so this is empty conjecture. The first thing to note is that not even Apple can perfectly gauge demand for its product, demonstrated by the fact they they revised their Q4 guidance upwards by up to $3 billion after the weekend. The second is that your proposal is antithetical to just-in-time production principles of in-process inventory management and would represent a huge business cost which would not be recouped by having more units available at launch. The third is that your proposed timing would interfere with Apple's plans to launch new iPads and Macs in October, not to mention the rest of their release schedule.
The fact that it turns out the same way every year: sold out on release and then covering demand within a month suggests that they know exactly what the demand is.

I can see that you think that being sold out at release is a bad thing, I just can't see why. You know a restaurant is doing well when there are people waiting for tables.

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Sil_ilS is being slightly disingenuous. At the time of the press release, the 5C had been available for pre-order for a week. The 5S had only been available for pre-order for 3 days, same as the iPhone 5, 4S, and 4. So the pertinent comparison is ~7 million iPhone 5S sold in three days vs. 5 million iPhone 5 over that same period last year.

Surely another sign Apple is doomed. Steve Jobs never would have let Apple increase opening weekend sales by 40% year over year.
No need to be melodramatic about this. I'm not saying that Apple is doomed. It's just an expected number.

Last year the iPhone 5 sold 5 million on release, but it didn't include the Chinese market. When it was released in China it sold 2 million in the first 3 days.

Now China got to be in on the list of first markets and we see 7 million iPhone 5s sold in 3 days. 5+2=7
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