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Old 09-01-2013, 05:59 PM   #73
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Originally Posted by Andrew H. View Post
The first situation is what it seems we have here (although I haven't looked into the matter more than what I've run across on the Internet) - booksellers are voluntarily giving this info to BRIEN. I don't really see a problem with this. Provided, of course, that there are sufficient due process protections in any subsequent civil action, etc. But the idea that a bookseller couldn't voluntarily use a third party to figure out why a torrent with a given watermark appeared on the internet without using the judicial system strikes me as backwards. (And I'm not sure how the judicial process would really help; noting that you sold a watermarked book to X and only to X, and this book is now available on a download site is more than enough to start an investigation in any legal system I'm familiar with. The idea that an investigator couldn't even talk to X just seems backwards.
You misunderstand the situation. The booksellers don't want to give the information to a third party. They are complaining that BREIN is forcing them.

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Yeah, I am curious what happens when BREIN gets the information too; I can imagine reasonable and unreasonable approaches, with a reasonable approach being to contact the purchaser the first time a book appears on a torrent, with no legal followup unless there appears to be a pattern.
Contact the purchaser saying what?

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I think you mean 20-30% - but with 10 sales, the number doesn't really matter.
I was thinking about the 'Authors Sue Harlequin Enterprises for eBook Royalties' thread. It wasn't 2-3%, it was 3-4%, but you posted on that thread so I don't see how you can say that the minimum that an author gets is 20-30%. And I didn't say 10 sales, I said pirated 10 times. Someone who only sells 10 books isn't successful enough to be pirated.
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