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Old 08-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #97
SteveEisenberg
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Originally Posted by shalym View Post
Actually, I don't. Now if you could PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person who downloaded the item was using it, then MAYBE your system would apply.
If beyond a shadow of a doubt is the standard, no one would ever be held to account for anything.

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In your bus analogy, there is no doubt that the person actually used the bus ride.
There's always doubt. Can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that their ticket wasn't stolen? And by the time it gets to a judge, what about mistaken identity? Or a bus inspector trying to meet an informal quota? Or retaliation because the ticket inspector wasn't offered a bribe? Or doesn't like your looks and demeanor? Etc. Etc.

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Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
Being fined $100 for downloading $1000 of books is not a reasonable penalty; in fact it's not a penalty at all.
What about being given a $26 parking ticket in Philadelphia, where the parking lots cost about that for a day? Most people, including myself, nonetheless avoid illegal parking. One reason is that there are a lot of people checking the meters, so the chances of being caught are high. Punishment? Maybe not. Deterrence? Yes.
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