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Old 07-13-2013, 09:53 AM   #276
SteveEisenberg
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The lack of ability to imprison or kill corporations over criminal matters is one of the reasons corporations should not be considered legal "persons."
Agreed. That was my main point. Apple losing the antitrust case is not analogous to employees being punished for wrongdoing.

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By that logic, any public corporation could commit all manner of illegal acts and argue that they shouldn't be punished because the shareholders are innocent.
Every year, Americans are sentenced to prison for violations of the Sherman Antitrust Act, as can be seen here. And corporate insiders can be prosecuted for lots of other potential crimes.


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We make purchases in good faith that the suppliers are selling according to the terms of the law; when that's not the case, refunds are a reasonable compensation for the overcharging.
Copyrighted books are legal monopolies. Publishers manage their distribution system and charge whatever they think is best for their various constituencies, including company owners and -- I hope this is high on their list -- authors. The antitrust case against the publishers was because they discussed something too explicitly, not because of what they did.

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If your pension fund managers invest your money in organizations that can't be bothered to operate within the law, then you may have grounds for a suit against them.
The leading manager and seller of S&P 500 Index Fund shares is the Vanguard Group. It is investor-owned. I would be suing myself.
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