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Old 06-30-2013, 02:31 AM   #101
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Originally Posted by ucfgrad93 View Post
This is the crux of the matter in my opinion. Law makers world wide are the ones responsible for the byzantine tax codes that corporations follow. If people aren't happy with how much taxes companies pay, then they need to put pressure on law makers to change the law.

But for people like rizla it is easier to bash companies online than to try and get laws changed.
You seriously believe that the tax laws, the various governments and Big Business aren't connected? Do you follow politics, like, at all?

Do you honestly believe that the thousands of lobbyits in Washington and Brussels are there for fun? Don't you think that they have influence over the decisions our politicians make?

Corporations lobby for and get the rules they want; and if they don't they threaten to take jobs overseas and no politician wants to antagonize them and take jobs away from their electorate.

It's simply not true that corporations are merely playing by the rules and if we don't like it, we could change the rules by electing different politicians. Take the US, for instance, this beacon of democracy: you can either vote Republican or Democrat (otherwise, your vote is basically meaningless on a national scale), and both have an absolutely atrocious track record of reigning in Big Business. The Republicans may be more aggressive in their pro business stance, but your chances of effecting meaningful change in the tax code (or the patent system) in the US as a voter are zero. [EDIT: I do not want to get into the whole Republicans vs. Democrats mess here; the situation that you as a voter have no real choice is true in many countries, albeit maybe not as extreme as in a two-party-system like the US]

That's just a fact.

As long as the system works they way it does -- as long as money plays as big a part in politics as it does now -- we're f*cked. We'll get one step closer to being able to effect real change onc we realise that corporations are the driving force behind most pro-business laws.

So, damn yes, we should blame the corporations. We can and should, of course, blame the politicians too, but the claim that Big Business (Amazon among them) just plays by the rules and didn't make those same rules is patently absurd.

Matt

Last edited by MattW; 06-30-2013 at 02:37 AM. Reason: inserted political sh*tstorm disclaimer (note the EDIT)
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