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Old 06-10-2013, 02:55 AM   #64
davidfor
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Originally Posted by theonna View Post
You telling me, that there is a way to put few thousand books onto shelves without Calibre? I am in agreement with you, I am not used to Calibre, and just used it's default settings. It is to the Kobo credit, that I even had to use it, right?
Yes you can put as many books onto shelves as you want using the device. It takes ages and probably isn't practical, but you can do it. calibre just makes it faster.

And you didn't use calibre with its default settings. You specifically loaded an extra plugin that messes with the files as they are sent to the device. That meant it took longer to get the books onto the device. And I am pretty sure that it took longer to process then when the device sees them. I haven't done the tests to compare, but loading a epub as a kepub produces about twice as many database records as when loaded as an epub. There will be a difference, I just don't know how much
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I am sorry, Kobo designers managed to create the worst handled pages of all the readers on the market, the slowest sync of content on the market today. I am not demanding, just stating facts.
Maybe you aren't demanding, but you have gone way beyond just stating facts.
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I should not need to learn to use css, Calibre to just comfortably use reading device for reading. It is reasonable to expect that.
Fair enough on the CSS. But, unless you are have a small number of books, you will need another application to help manage them. Calibre is the best application for that. Kobo probably say to use ADE for sideloading.
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I hope Kobo managers understand it is not demands, it is reasonable expectations and unfortunately endless frustration, when they are not met.
Asking to fix bugs is completely reasonable. Asking for new function that is completely different from any on the device currently, not so much.
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Well, ideally, you should be correct- load my library, my Kobo books and never plug my ereader again. But, life is not perfect,
I loaded my books first using just file browser on my computer. Waited of hour and a half for Aura to process the lot, notice- no Calibre, figured I got 200+ page library and no way to organize it without some help, so I decided to remove all the books, using my computer file manager again, and so I did, after that Aura just pretended that books were still there, so I had to relog...because whatever I did Aura did not want to update it's database. Then I went on to figure out shelves, Calibre, css, orphans and widows, took hours...and about 5 synchronizations. And I still have to create my own specific sub collection for Aura only, so it is fast, current and displays correctly...Because I want to know how to do it the way I like it, and you should agree, I have a lot to learn with Kobo. And it feels that I shouldn't have to.[/QUOTE]

Firstly, we used the term "synchronisation" differently. For the Kobo devices, when I talk sync, I am talking syncing to their servers. That only happens for books purchased Kobo and downloaded to the device.

The rest of what you describe sounds like what I expect to do with any new device: play with it until I have it setup the way I want or as near as possible to that. About the only thing you did that I didn't, was to put all the books on the first time. I tried a few first to see how it worked.

But, you did stumble on a "feature" that I had completely forgotten about. For books put onto the main memory, of the file disappears for whatever reason, the device does not remove the book from the database. They are still showed in the library list and give an error when you try to open them. They might disappear if you power off, but I haven't tried that recently.
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