that did the trick
i think it had something to do with usbnet and vmware.. usually devices get picked up by vmware and you can choose to send it back to the host system- which stopped happening
i plugged it into my fulltime linux box and it came up as mass storage- did the two updates, and now kual runs
odd, i thought the lipc full file scan would have picked that up, oh well it works now
thanks knc1
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