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Ecbritz:

I wrote a nice lengthy reply to this, but, I've nuked it, because I'm done with this thread. My concept that people ought to do some of their own effort at learning seems to be utterly lost in here somehow. I'm not going to keep banging my head against the wall.

And, with regard to your question to Toxaris: (my Dutch is poor, but not that poor): I mentioned Jutoh because it is a word-processor designed to make eBooks, and it is not designed for anything else. For those of you who have indicated that you have no interest in learning coding--which is the fundamental core of ebook-making--it's a perfectly acceptable solution. It does not provide the finite degree of control that an XHTML editor like Sigil provides--or the finite control that actually learning HTML, XHTML and CSS provides--but it's a perfectly good program for writers to use to make ebooks that they wish to sell for commercial purposes. I think that "real" ePUB-makers hand-code their own books, and don't use products like Jutoh, but I think that people who want books to make themselves without having to LEARN anything like HTML and CSS should use a product like that. It is absolutely not superior to Sigil; it's an alternative for those who cannot be bothered doing the work needed to learn how to make an ePUB.

I most certainly did not recommend the Tsen book. I did indeed recommend Liz Castro's book--which anyone who has done 10 minutes of "how to make ePUBs" googling on the Internet should have found--because it has every single facet of fundamental knowledge in it, ranging from the html files themselves to CSS to the OPF and NCX, along with some more-advanced CSS options.

I for one am not here to create courses to teach other people to make books. I'm here to meet and greet with my peers, and with other enthusiasts who are techie. To exchange ideas with other pros and gifted hobbyists. To kick around coding issues, problems, and just generally have a "get-together" of people who all already know HOW to play the piano (just go with my metaphor, please), to use one example. It's not my intention, in coming here with my fellow pianists and amateur piano enthusiasts, to take the time to set up a course for people who don't know what the piano does. Just because some guy wanders in the room, sees the piano, starts banging on the keys, and then complains because Rachmaninoff's 3rd didn't come flying out of his buttcheeks doesn't mean that I or anyone else here has some obligation to create a whitepaper on how to go about BEGINNING to learn to play the piano. That's not the same thing as a discussion between "peeps" about the annoyances of ADE, or why Nook's hyphenation will make you rip your hair out, or what evil thing Apple has done lately, vis-a-vis text-wrapping...it's just not.

If I wanted to give "how to" classes, I would still be posting over at the KDP forum. I know what it sounds like, but I give some time in the forums here that are appropriate for this: the Workshop and the format forums, not in a discussion of programs/tools like Sigil. This forum has quite enough "runaway" threads about html and CSS as it is. This discussion is not appropriate here; it's appropriate, if at all, in the Workshop, the ePUB forum and the Wiki.

Which I think has been mentioned something like 10 times now. (Yes, gang: I am really, really done now.)

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