When I wrote this post I put the following paragraphs at the bottom, but I decided to put it at the top as a kind of pre-emptive strike:
Basically, my beef is with people who make comparisons to Windows 7, and claim that it's either more convoluted to do things in Windows 8 or that you can't do them at all. Button-click for button-click, I've yet to find something that has more steps in Windows 8 than 7. Sometimes it's fewer, sometimes it's the same.
I'm sure there's probably some feature, somewhere where Windows 8 has indeed made it more difficult or removed it altogether, that seems to always be the case when new OSes are released, but overall I just don't see it.
Anyway, on to the body of your post:
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It's not just being different that makes it more convoluted and difficult, it's the incompleteness. As I mentioned before Modern is not a complete interface that can stand on its own. As a touch interface, it is missing key components of what has made Android successful including but not limited to interactive widgets, centralized notifications, multiple store options, and personalization.
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I've not yet used Windows 8 on a touch-only computer, so I can't really commet on this. You may very well have a point, but to me this is comparing Windows 8 to Android and others, and not Windows 7. I don't claim that Windows 8 is perfect, nor do I claim that it's better than Android. My primary claim is that it is not more complex to do things in Windows 8 than it is in Windows 7.
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As a PC interface, it can't do windows which is a huge omission, and it also can't do most of the advanced configuration. Windows 8 relies on the desktop for a lot of its shortcomings, but even that isn't quite what people are used to in 7.
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I'm assuming by "can't do windows" you mean inside the Metro interface? I don't have a problem with that. It can do windows just fine in the desktop interface. And what advanced configurations are you talking about? As for it not being what people are used to in 7, that's true. I don't see anything wrong with that. Windows 95 wasn't what people were used to with Windows 3.1.
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Another example of a frustration is how the Windows Store installs apps on multiple profiles. In short, it doesn't. You have no option to install an app on anything other than the profile you are in at the time. To get it on the other profiles you have to go into each profile and install it, and in one case I even got charged twice for the same app because of this and have yet to get a refund. The store is very poorly done, by far the worst one out there. If you know the name of what you are looking for you can find it easily enough. If not, or if you want to find similar alternative apps, well, good luck.
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You seem to know more about this than I do, I don't doubt that this is a problem, but Windows 7 didn't even have a Windows Store... so I don't see this as being a knock on Windows 8 vs. 7...
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Originally Posted by pl001
How about side swipes to select multiple mail items? Completely hidden feature and different than selecting anything else in Modern. Not to mention the mail app as a whole feels about 4 years out of date.
Ever try getting the contents of an SD card to be seen in Modern apps in an RT device? Something automatic on other OSs that you almost certainly won't be figuring out without Google and some technical savvy.
Try opening the Photos app, select your Facebook or other online picture account, then try to copy a picture from there onto the PC. Can't be done. something that started as a great idea and then not finished.
As I said earlier, I could go on and on and on about these little frustrations...
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Again, these are concerns about new things in Windows 8, things you couldn't do on Windows 7... I don't have any comments on that.