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Old 03-07-2013, 09:22 PM   #469
SteveEisenberg
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Originally Posted by TGS View Post
Merriam-Webster says that due process is:
Isn't that a US dictionary?

According to the Oxford Dictionary of English on my Kindle, the full definition is:

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fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially a citizen's entitlement to notice of a charge and a hearing before an impartial judge
AFAIK, the Pirate Bay people are not British citizens. I never heard of due process for non-citizens, especially ones who aren't resident in the country. They get procedural due process only.

As for whether blocking the Pirate Bay is a good idea, really, I don't care much, one way or the other, about blocking the pop music features, but I'd block it for books.

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Originally Posted by usuallee View Post
I don't agree with unauthorized downloading, but I don't want to live in a police state . . .
I've been in Britain repeatedly, and never found it to be one.

Based on Wikipedia numbers, the incarceration rate in the US, which is the world's highest, is 4.6 times more than that of the UK. This seems to me a far better measure of whether a country is a police state than whether you have access to a self-proclaimed pirate web site. Glancing at the site, I don't see a whole lot of speech. It's almost wholly an index.

P.S. I didn't mean to imply that the US is a police state. I just thought it was out of proportion to say that disallowing the Pirate Bay makes you a police state.

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