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Old 08-23-2008, 06:05 PM   #183
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Originally Posted by starrigger View Post
What DrMoze said. Yes.

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For those who say that Tor sucks, all I can say is, get real, for heaven's sake. Tor is staffed, from the ground up, by people who love books and who work hard to get as many good books out to people as they can. I can understand why PNH got a little testy in his comment referenced above, because people were complaining because they were given something for free. Maybe he was a little intemperate in his reply to one individual--but even if that's true, he's a human being and he does get testy, but he's not the whole company. He's a senior editor who's taking time from a very busy schedule to answer remarks from readers. He doesn't always answer my emails right away, either, and I'm a Tor author.
I wonder why people who are writers seem to not be able to read or understand what they read. It has been repeatedly stated that the complaint was about the lack of future ebooks, not about free ebooks. Yet the complainers about the complaints do not seem to understand that statement and repeatedly say we should not complain about free ebooks.

I am not aware that anyone has said the "Tor sucks". I may have missed it. I said that we had been "suckered", a totally different word. When we go fishing we put bait on a hook. The fish infers that there is a good meal there but in fact the fish was suckered. I felt that Tor suckered us with ebooks and we inferred that there were more ebooks to be had. Tor syas that was not the case. Issue settled. However we & they still don't feel real great about the whole thing. We'll get over it. Hopefully they will too.

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Originally Posted by DrMoze
Tor never "implied" that more e-books would be available. That was your assumption.
According to my understanding & my dictionary - to indicate or suggest, as something naturally to be inferred, without express statement.

Now that suggests an intent on the part of the one giving the implication. I agree that apparently Tor.com did not intend to imply that there would be ebooks for sell at Tor. However there were a great number of people who inferred (not assumed) that Tor did indeed imply that. (Their actions seemed to imply that.) Many times we (and I include myself) say things that others naturally infer to mean something that we did not intend to imply. IMO intent to imply is not necessary for there to be an implication.


Yes I understand now, after some not so nice words both ways, that Tor did not intend to imply. They were upset with us for misunderstanding what they meant. We were upset with them for seeming to mislead us (at least it seemed that way to some of us).

'nuff said. We (and They) miscommunicated but I think we (and they) now understand the situation.
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