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Old 01-08-2013, 08:15 AM   #35280
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Originally Posted by orlok View Post
Thanks Stitchy. Fascinating stuff. I had experience if the nomikai when I was over there, where we visited the karaoke bars after work, and all got pretty drunk. There was a marked difference to day time behaviours as their inner honne was let loose. The guy who had brought me out on contract, a Brit and their boss, was something of an assh*le, and it was only during one of these sessions that it became clear that they felt the same way about him as I did.
Once you've had a drink or two you can NOT be held accountable for anything you say. And they all (mostly) play by that rule. You MUST treat you superiors as Living Gods by day. But after a couple of drinks you can tell them where to get off... and no harm will come to you.

And 'superior' doesn't just mean your boss. It means anyone who was hired before you too. Seniority plays into everything here, even in college social clubs. I had a student who told me that she joined the university Ski Club, and that they were going skiing that weekend. I said 'I'm sure you will love the skiing as there was a good snowfall during the week.' She said "Oh, I won't be allowed to ski. I'm just a Freshman so all I do this year is carry the skis and boots for one of the elder club members. Then next year I will be allowed to put on boots and practice walking around in them. In my Junior year I will be given basic lessons by one of the seniors and permitted to practice on the Bunny slope. Then in my Senior year, I will teach a Junior the basic lessons, then take more advance lessons from the ski intsructors at the ski area." Japan is a very different place...


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