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Old 08-12-2008, 07:34 PM   #146
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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety View Post
Ah ... well for one thing, border searches have nothing to do with "civil rights." So ... sorry, but you all are sort of missing the big picture with that one.

Next point ... no one is "confiscating" your private data. So, I really wish the folks who don't get that point would stop repeating it like some sort of strange mantra.

The next president is not going to have to "restore civil rights" with respect to searches at the international borders, because "civil rights" are not being infringed.

It's really that simple. I'm sorry that so many of you don't understand that. But ... really, it's not exactly rocket science.
Thatīs not right. If I fly from Germany to the USA they can confiscate my tech stuff (laptop, e-book reader, ...) without any reason ('Donīt like your nose ..') and I can try to get it back. Additionally they want fingerprints from me (welcome police state) ...

As an offtopic: They could also arrest me because I could have the same name as some 'terrorist' (which I supposely donīt have because Iīm born in Germany ... but ...) and I could find myself a nice place in Guantanamo Bay (and I would rot there until the end of time ...).

If they take your property and youīre freedom it isnīt depending on your civil rights?

You donīt have to be a 'rocket scientist' to see that this is wrong.

For your defense ... in Germany itīs the same game. More and more surveillance because of the 'bad terrorist threat'. The majority doesnīt care about that as long as they are not directly affected.

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