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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward
Who decides what is wasteful? Who enforces it? How did this power get granted?
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You shouldn't need to
ask "what is wasteful." Using "disposable" plastic containers that fester for a thousand years in a landfill, as opposed to cleaning and re-using containers, is wasteful. Idling your (post-1990) car for more than a minute, as opposed to shutting off your engine, is wasteful. Using an incandescent light bulb that uses eight times the power of a compact fluorescent bulb is wasteful. Letting the water tap run for ten minutes, when you only use a minutes' water, is wasteful.
Most of these things are common-sense choices, and you shouldn't have to ask someone else for "definitions." Usually, it just requires some thought, maybe after someone else has pointed it out to you, and the waste becomes crystal clear.
Who enforces it? Who grants the power? We do... with our votes.
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Originally Posted by nekokami
Okiedokie. I love the free market. So we get rid of the subsidies to the oil companies and the nuclear power companies, and we require that they fully fund in escrow the resources needed to clean up their own waste, and that gets included in the energy costs, as passed along down the line.
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That's exactly the way to do it.
Ecotopia Now!
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Originally Posted by nekokami
What I hear most people proposing isn't a free market, but a deficit market-- spend as much of the world's resources as you want now, because various laws and regulations won't stop you... and your grandchildren can figure out how to pick up the tab.
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Yup... and I don't want to be around when the kids figure that out, and are in power when serious steps have to be taken. Who do you think is going to be first in line to have their resources limited? The ones who wasted it in the first place...