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Originally Posted by kiwidude
@jeannie - it is hard to explain all the reasons why you should change the tweak without getting more technical, and you said you hate that. You also asked for step by step instructions to get yourself setup as best possible for LN, FN and every user plus the help page has said you should change the tweak. By doing things your own way, I'm afraid you have spent a lot longer on it than it needs to have taken, because all that copy and pasting was completely unnecessary if you had followed all the steps in the order given...
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What copying and pasting? First, most of the time I spent was cleaning up past inconsistencies with the author sort because I hadn't paid attention to how calibre had been doing them (inconsistent downloaded metadata was an even bigger culprit) and I didn't take time to check them after adding the books, a mistake I will not repeat. The only thing that took any real time to fix were the authors that had Institute and Company in them until I figured out I had to use Manage Authors instead of the Metadata Editor to fix them (the wrong word in the author name was being used for the sort). I took the time to do all that first because I didn't want to have to deal with more than one issue at a time.
The actual change from FN LN to LN, FN didn't involve any copying and pasting. It only took a single mouse click on the Copy All Author Sort Values to Author button in the Manage Authors. Checking through 1719 books to see if everything was correct only took maybe ten or fifteen minutes to scroll down both the author list in the tag browser (which had been pared down to 820 once I got rid of the duplicate entries caused by missing middle names, misspellings, etc.) and all 1719 books on the main menu. Every change had been made correctly with that one mouse click. Even the authors that had Company and Institute in them and the two that I had changed manually as a test when trying to use the tweek stayed correctly formatted and sorted.
The only copy and pasting I have been referring to is for when I will add books in the future (and the context menu you told me about will probably make that even easier; I see no reason why it wouldn't but time will tell). I will already be in the Metadata Editor so that will require very little effort on my part. I don't know where you got the idea I used copy and paste in the Metadata editor to correct each of my existing books.
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Originally Posted by kiwidude
...The way you have your library now, every single book will need double checking to make sure that the author sort is in LN, FN...
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Again, checking them took only a few minutes.
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Originally Posted by kiwidude
...And every time you add a book, you have to go edit, even if when the book was added it displays as LN, FN...
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So? Since I download my metadata anyway, I'm already in the Metadata editor.
[QUOTE=kiwidude;2158311...Your default author sorts are wrong for every new author, causing you to have to go to Manage Authors to fix it, or else your edit metadata dialog will show a red background warning you of an inconsistency...[/QUOTE]
That was happening even when tweek was in place. Again, THE TWEEK DIDN'T WORK! When it was in place, I had to retype the author because both the Author and Author Sort fields were displaying FN LN.
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Originally Posted by kiwidude
...But if you want to be stubborn about it and do things your way, you just do that  |
Granted, I'm stubborn (I'm part Irish so what did you expect?) but stubborness had little to do with it. It's not about doing my way; it's about trying to get it to work! Period! So there is no need to get flip with me. I learned a long time ago to never take anything at face value. If someone tells me something is a certain way and just take their word for it, it's not going to happen; I'm going to question it.
You all keep insisting I screwed up by removing the tweek yet, when I had it in place, it made more work for me. So what the heck went wrong, if anything?