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Old 07-16-2008, 01:10 PM   #59
Steven Lyle Jordan
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I disagree with Kunstler. What does a suburban lifestyle take? Cheap energy, cheap land, and limited political demands. Currently we're choking on cheap energy part. Will this be always?
Energy was never that cheap... just subsidized. There are many hidden costs, not the least of which is the cost of pollution cleanup from that energy production, that should be figured into all energy costs, and has not been. Adjust the equation, and you see why solar, wind, hydro/tidal, etc, have such value.

As for land...

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Cheap land? Well, you could give every person in the US a 1000 Sq meter lot in Texas and still have a lot of Texas left over. No problem here in Texas.
I'll take it. Thanks!

But these still don't take into account a wasteful lifestyle. We need to improve how we use (and not waste) energy and resources, and alter our perceptions of things like disposables, foods, packaging, transportation/commuting, work, play, etc.
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