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Once again, thanks for the attempts to clarify. I still stick to my position that the elimination process does not hold water if you start from the premise that they are all sitting in the room, and can all see four red hats from the start. Blue hats just don't come into it. Can someone show how you would work out the colour of their own hat starting from this principle?
Otherwise I'll just go sit in the corner with the big hat with a D on it...
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