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Old 07-01-2012, 04:36 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by plib View Post
If the possibility of being shot for file sharing doesn't stop it then yes, I'd agree. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle. stonetools et. al. can fantasize about the hegemony of US law enforcement, it might even manage the occasional extradition of someone on dubious legal grounds* or batter down someone's door with invalid warrants, but long term eradication is impossible.

*Interestingly enough I met for lunch with some in-law relations who were passing through the airport today. A retired university professor and a retired Headmistress of a girls boarding school. Fairly conservative, solid middle England. Both were incandescent about the Richard O'Dwyer extradition case and the state of US/UK legal balance in general. This could generate a reaction similar to ACTA. The US as a country, not necessarily its people, is about as unpopular in the world as I can ever recall, partly as a result of attitudes and actions like this one. I don't think I would rely on future US hegemony too much.
Plib one of the ways that the US Gov't gets its way, that is imposes its ideology, on other countries is by using the Balance of Trade Negotiations as a bargaining tool. That info may also help you to understand some of the distaste. In fact it goes down like a lead balloon in Aus!

Here is an Australian example:

For example:
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Until 1 January 2005, copyright generally lasted for the life of the relevant creator plus 50 years.

There were various exceptions to this rule, including:
• where a work was not published, performed or broadcast during a creatorʼs lifetime; and
• where something was published anonymously or under a pseudonym, and the identity of the creator couldnʼt reasonably be ascertained.

(In each of these cases, copyright lasted for 50 years from the end of the year the work was, with permission, first published, performed or broadcast.)

Under the Free Trade Agreement with the United States, Australia agreed to extend the general duration of copyright. As a result, the rules now are that copyright generally lasts for the life of the creator plus 70 years and where duration depends on year of publication, it lasts until 70 years
after it is first published.


The Free Trade Agreement did not, however, include any obligation to revive copyright if copyright had already expired. This means that if, under the old rules, copyright had already expired by 1 January 2005, it stays expired and the material can be used freely under Australian law.

http://www.copyright.org.au/find-an-answer/
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Pharmaceuticals is another area where the US Gov't was particularly blatant in its attempts to get us to enshrine their ideology. Thank heavens they failed!!!

PS I did mention aspects of this in an earlier post in this thread, but I've included the actual proof statements in this post.

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