I had beer tonight with dinner! First one this year! Asahi Draft. Tasted pretty good... for beer. I still prefer German beers.
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Originally Posted by VydorScope
It is becoming that way here in America.
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So I have heard.
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For example, I had on mom tell me "I can not wait till I can get my daughter in kindergarten because they will know how to deal with her and fix her."
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That sort of thing really frightens me. Why is she still allowed to be a parent? We have to learn how to drive before we get a license. We have to learn how to do a LOT of things before we are allowed by law to do them. Why don't they make parenting one of those things!
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No, raising my son is my wife and I's problem, not the state's. It is one thing (and a good one) to ask for help if needed, but responsibility must fall squarely on the parents.
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Absolutely! In fact, I'm in favor of the courts punishing the parents for the behavior of their children, as well as punishing the children.
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Originally Posted by wyndslash
well, i was the product of corporal punishment. i don't think i'd employ that method if i ever had kids, but it did help in some ways.
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When I say 'corporal punishment,' personally I do think that Singapore oversteps the line. Being beaten with a big stick is very different from being switched with a thin birch rod. You do NOT walk away from a Singapore caning... You are hospitalized for several days. That is not my idea of punishment for children. (I do think it's a good idea for adults...)
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i remember my mom used to slap me whenever i cursed, and a good spanking sure did wonders... 
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My mother was a 'slapper' too. Just once or twice at any given 'crime,' and always in the heat of the moment. But as you said, it did get the message across. My parents never used any belts or hairbrushes, always their hands, and frankly, that hurt enough.
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