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Old 05-18-2012, 07:28 PM   #117
Jaden
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Originally Posted by stonetools View Post
Even innocent until proven guilty, you are arrested, charged, held on bail and summonsed to defend yourself in a court of law. It doesn't mean "LE cannot even charge you or take any action against you until presented proof of guilt . That's what EW's purported standard would be .
Yes, but they have to prove that you are guilty. Of course you should do all you can to defend yourself, but in most cases it's not enough that there is someone who says you are guilty. I don't know how it works where you are, but where I am you will not be convicted if there is even the shadow of a doubt.

What they are trying to do (at least over here, again) is that if they can link the account to you, then you are guilty, even if you didn't download anything illegally. You will have to prove that you have been hacked, for example, which is nearly impossible.

Normally it's "you're accused of" and not "you've been found guilty (and now prove otherwise, though were 99% sure you can't and even if you can, you may still have to pay if you can't prove that you did everything you could to hinder people from hijacking your network)" - something like that did happen over here. Some lawyer writes a notice "you downloaded XY, now pay sum AZ or we will sue you". And if you don't have solid proof that you didn't do it, couldn't have done it and did all you could to prevent it in that case (which is nearly impossible to do for most people), you'd better pay - because if they sue you it will cost so much more.

Last edited by Jaden; 05-19-2012 at 06:40 PM. Reason: typo
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