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Old 07-02-2008, 10:01 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
So, what would you have done about the twin towers? Say "Bad terrorists, No, No?"

The one thing the "Bush lied" camp seems to overlook is - where do you want the terrorist to strike? Soft cilivian targets in the US? Or volunteer soldiers somewhere else? Iraq is a lightning rod for terrorists.

As for "Based on a lie." How many lies did the previous administration tell? What about that bombing of a bio-warfare plant (asprin factory)? But those lies are OK, 'cause you like the politics.....
I don't like Clinton, either! I don't like being in a war in a acoutntry that did not have anything to do with 9/11. I don't like being in a war because 9/11 was allowed to happen by the previous six administrations!

If we go to war, let's go to farking war and win. Let's have a targetable enemy and wipe them out. Let's go to the country where the enemy is and destroy his capacity to wage war against us. Let's have good intelligence and use it appropriately.

Let us not, however, say that a country is a threat and then use up all our availabel resources to do something that does not have anything to do with the terrorists in Afghanistan. Let us not ignore the real threat, the Taliban, in order to get rid of a tin pot dictator who is not the immediate threat. Let us not squander the good will and moral imperative we have when we are attacked.

I am not a peacenik. I believe in the use of military when it is not possible to further our goals diplomatically. I believe that diplomacy is the ultimate way of getting us to where we need to be, but that sometimes it is necessary to give them a good bonking in order to gain their attention.

But let's just be circumspect in why we do what we do. The war in Iraq has wasted so many of our resources that we are not able to get what we really need form all this: security by means of projection of force.

All politicians lie. I hate that they do. This administration governs based on lies. That, in my estimate is the thing that makes them reprehensible. Clinton was an idiot and I voted against his wife. McCain is a man of integrity , as is Obama. We finally have an actual choice and I welcome either one of them to take the reins in 202 dayds.
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