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Old 07-01-2008, 10:15 AM   #28
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The music industry didn't go DRM-less because someone hacked the DRM and broke it free. They've started going DRM-less because it increases sales and the world didn't stop rotating.
Do we need to restart the DRM-discussion here?
Because I absolutely dont agree with you (you seem to believe that DRM could be a good thing, which it cannot be), but I really dont want to do that OT-discussion here.
So.. If you want that discussion, start a new DRM-thread or restart an old one and I will be there.

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Book publishers though know their content gets used once.
Which is quite simply not true, people have demonstrated that often enough on this board.

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Hacking skills don't come with no responsibilities.
Sigh. With great power comes great responsibility, yay for Spiderman. But: Where is Amazons responsibility?

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We need to risk destroying the platform to add a feature Amazon clearly could add themselves?
You are greatly overrating your own importance. It is not that easy to destroy a platform - for every single DRM-mechanism on the normal market you can name, there already IS a circumvention mechanism. Still the market is functional.
What does this tell you? The possibility to make screenshots and reOCR them is not dangerous to Amazon. There are easier ways to get to the content.

If I buy a device I am going to use it the way I want to. There is no law stopping me from that.
You dont have to develop for a specific device, your decision. But leave others do their work without annoying them.

I personally dont like the idea of that magnifier too much (technical reasons) and I'd agree that it would be much better to simply get Amazon to release a "zoom-mechanism" and/or a nice image-viewer. And as I dont own a Kindle, I wont start developing for it. But: If somebody wants to implement said viewer: My best wishes.
I dont know (and frankly dont care) about the legal situation (would Amazon be allowed to restrict the usage or steal your bought products? In Germany I wouldnt think so, in the US I dont know), so you have to take care of that.
But again: if they fear a mechanism like that to circumvent DRM - apparently they would be able to stop it from accessing their books, so whats the big deal?
And if a mechanism as simple as that one could crush their whole marketing ... They didnt deserve it better.


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Over in the Experimental section of the Kindle they ask people to send them ideas to their feedback email address on how to improve the platform. Do we know if Dave really even tried?
Your getting personal without reason and you know it.
Still I agree - mass-mailing Amazon to implement that feature would probably be a better path.

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Where's his email posted to show what evil bastards Amazon are for ignoring him?
If he'd posted one it wouldnt have proved shit (excuse my language).
1) The email could be forged
2) You wouldnt know if Amazon reacted. How could he prove not getting a response?
And even that response-mail could have been forged.
Heck, I could just write a fictional email-discussion with Amazon supporting his claim without breaking a sweat.

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Why aren't we giving them a chance to prove their evil intent before we pick up the pitch forks and storm the castle walls?
I agree.

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Amazon has fought the book content providers like a Tiger and gotten us what we want.
Your getting money from Amazon?
Because you sound like you do - they fought (quite unfair) to get the most money.

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Now we're supposed to use our hacking skills to pay them back how and for what cause du jour?
First: Stop talking about hacking. Simply implementing a mechanism like that is not hacking.
Second: I see NOTHING evil in the mechanism asked for. The screenshot-mechanism has been implemented by AMAZON. The only thing added would be the "zoom parts of the screenshot". And dont restart giving that "breaks DRM"-crap. Its bullshit and you know it. BTW: Noone asked for a "dump screenshots to the card of every single page".
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