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Old 05-07-2012, 01:51 PM   #275
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Originally Posted by HansTWN View Post
To make the knife store analogy a little more accurate you should change it to something like this.

The Pirate Bay is like a shop that sells knives and then tells you: "look, now take that knife to the second floor, they have a jewelry store there you can rob, we even provide a special back entrance for you. And nobody has ever been caught since they don't have surveillance video". You should add that the name of the store is 'Knives for Crimes', to keep out the cooks and other pesky customers.

To make the analogy even more fitting, you could say the store has a great number of monitors showing video links to places that are easy to rob.
You seem to be a little confused about my analogy. BPI took the ISP to court, not TPB. In my analogy the shop was the ISP. It should have been obvious since the title of the thread clearly states that the ISPs were taken to court, and my analogy was that the shop owner is taken to court.

I would say that you are trying to make an analogy between your hypothetical shop and TPB, but it would be a complete failure because TPB doesn't actually host anything.

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy View Post
The "casuals" will go wherever Google tells them to go. The only reason TPB is top of any Google search now is because of the number of visitors it has and the number of people clicking those links. Artificially reduce the number of visitors TPB gets and the next biggest pirate site will dominate Google. Then you're back to square one.
Why would a "casual" need to find a torrent site? Why use a search engine to find another search engine?

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Originally Posted by elcreative View Post
I gathered that its legality wasn't exactly established even there as the owners have declined to defend anything by scattering around the world to avoid legal actions... not being finally found illegal doesn't mean legal, just means decision pending...
It's not innocent until proven guilty?

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Originally Posted by murraypaul View Post
Both. TPB have the ability to remove infringing files, but refuse to do so.
They actively encourage users to upload them.
The site is designed to facilitate infringement.
TPB are guilty (as found by the judge) of authorising the users' infringements.
How can TPB authorize if they don't have the right to do so? You can only authorize if you have the authority.

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Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
This seems like a pretty damning judgement, and one which fully merits action. The fact that there are other criminals committing similar crimes does not mean that action should not be taken against these particular ones, surely?
But action isn't taken against TPB.

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Originally Posted by HansTWN View Post
It should be the same as with youtube. If you get notified that you have illegal links on your site then you should take them down immediately. And you should also be proactive, trying to make sure that your users don't post illegal links. The Mobileread moderators take down such links all the time.
What is the difference between having abcdefgh and abcdefgh.com in a post? Technically if you write abcdefgh[dot]com, it's not a link.

To those who are trying to say that TPB is not about piracy:


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