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Old 04-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #489
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Originally Posted by Freeshadow View Post
True, but knowing how much falling-apart-books I fixed or just read, regardless of their massive lacks in structural integrity this comparison is an anti-eReader at all argument from my POV.

In this case, rather the whole shelves - pack this together with your loose-one-loose-all attitude plus considering how much money sits on shelves of some bibliophiles and we are at the anti eReader argument again.

Until someone doesn't come up with a damn sturdy reader which doesn't need batteries because the very little amount of energy it needs can be generated on-the-fly by reading light the idea you promote -
Let's call it eBook transplants instead of copying - will hardly win friends.

Right about DRM, wrong about copies. Make a textbook expensive enough a must for a university course, go into the library and watch the queues.

(sic) library
Portability./. Fragility, yes.

It's one thing to live with tradeoffs when they lay in the nature of something, compared to having then artificially added like DRM schemes and stuffed down ones throat.
See CD's & mp3: I personally am damn happy that I can store the original discs safely away, while having my music on all devices I want them to be available on.

As I said somewhere already: were there a similar solution for books like data cartridges (the old 8-bit console thingies come in mind - sturdy things) let it be a bastard between a cartridge and SD readonly cards (single books or even series don't need as much space as digital audio)
Having no rewrite ability needed the cards contents could be hardwired like the old cartridges. No rewrite on card means less circuitry too = cheaper than SD.

Were there such a solution to buy this instead of paper as original media and proof of legally clean possession I'd be in. Or possession certificates or whatever reasonable one can come up with without crippling the actual content please.
The geo-restriction troubles would be gone too as a bonus.

there we are both on the same side of the fence.
First I thank you for taking time to analyze in detail what I have said and comment on it.
I realize that my position is in the minority here at this forum for this is the kind of place where people gather that do know all about the techniques on breaking DRM or obtaining free books online. They are also very verbal to the point of abrasiveness sometimes on their reasons and their right to circumvent what publishers, distributors and authors have done to protect copyrighted material.

I have expressed my own beliefs as succinctly as possible though of course it is possible to delve into more detail on most any point.

It appears to me that we are at a standoff.

Some and in fact many of those here at MR will continue to remove DRM and give all sorts of reasons why they do it. They will continue to complain mightily, and in my mind's eye I can visualize rent garments, ashes, sack cloth and some chest beating as well, and will grow more vehement as DRM techniques including the new watermarking "process" are refined and toughened.

On the other hand most all the significant authors and many other authors including myself and most if not all significant publishers will continue to sell their wares with DRM in one form or another. Sometimes the authors might give away samples or even sell series without DRM for advertising is something most of us understand.

The majority of the public will buy the DRM protected books.

That is the way it is, and will be in the foreseeable future.
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