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Old 04-18-2012, 06:43 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by bluerfoot View Post
I guess I am the only person sad then. For instance I have learning python (a 1000 page book) from O'Reilly on my kindle. I have 9 sections I can now click on where as before I could easily navigate the book. I really hope they reincorporate the toc, would not mind the goto breakout as well but one more line for the old toc would be wonderful.
O'Reilly books are generally laid out the same way. In the several I've checked, the linked TOC starts at location 1. So use Go To, 'Page or Location...', type '1'. Let's see: 1 tap to bring up options, 1 tap to bring up Go To dialog, 1 tap to bring up Page or Location, 1 tap to enter '1', 1 tap to navigate to the location. Total: 5 taps. 2 taps less efficient than what you'd like to do.

Or as I suggested previously, set a bookmark at location 1, and use Menu, View notes and marks, and that will be the first item in the list. Once bookmark is established, 1 tap to bring up options, 1 tap on Menu, 1 tap on View Notes and Marks, 1 tap on first item. Total: 4 taps, a 1 tap savings over the above. Only 1 tap less efficient than what you'd like to be able to do on the Go To popup.

But in either case, now you have to navigate the pages with the links to find the one you want to jump to. Depending on the text size you've set, that will be several pages at least (especially for a 1000 page book). And if you accidentally tap instead of swipe (as I am wont to do), you are likely to jump somewhere you didn't want to go, and have to use Back to get back (not as efficient on KT as previously). So I was finding my O'Reilly books onerous to navigate when compared with ePub, and even got an ePub reader in part to read these books with.

I think the main problem with the current implementation is that hierarchical lists are always displayed fully expanded, and that can make for a very long list of items. It would be much more efficient if only the section you were currently in was expanded, and everything else were collapsed. Then you would not need to swipe as much to get to a top level item, before drilling down to see what is in there. Or better, if there was also a button to toggle collapse all/expand all (while remembering the node you are currently in). I think I'll make this suggestion to kindle-feedback.

I still prefer navigating the structural TOC, but it could be improved.
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