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Old 03-30-2012, 06:16 PM   #90
Steven Lake
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I loved the idea of The Colony show and wonder about how well I'd do. I have no real desire to test that ability but it is intriguing and I'll bet they had no shortage of volunteers. That Colony was a bit too synthetic for my taste and I gave it up after season one.
Well, if my health was better, I'd probably do pretty good. I grew up on a farm and am very mechanically inclined by nature. But, it doesn't help when you've pretty much destroyed your health by eating too much fast food and more or less living behind a desk sitting on your *** day in and day out without any exercise. I guess I'd be one of those who'd get thinned when the herd got downsized. lol. As for the show "The Colony", it was in general just a well scripted soap opera. HOWEVER, it did bring up some very accurate and insightful points about post-apoc survival, two of those being security, and the acquisition of resources. Another point that was well illustrated was the need to barter. In today's "pay what's listed" society, people have lost the skill of bartering, and those who still have it will pretty much own anyone who doesn't.
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The issue of leadership is a recurring sore spot. So much more gets done by solitary leadership (dictator, monarchy, head-man or whatever) than by committee.
Eh, well, in a survival situation, single man leadership is important. Sure, there's times when group votes are important, as the show demonstrated. But then there's other times when you need a single man (or person) leading the group and calling the shots. For the most part, a good leader will know when to take 100% control of things, and when to either delegate control, or possibly even surrender all control to the group for a single decision, or even a period of time. At least that's how it should work. Reality can sometimes be entirely different. ^_^;;
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Time for a friendly reminder, since this thread is getting long and memories may be short: Self-Promotional blurbs and links are not allowed in this thread. The only place one may self-promote on MobileRead is...(here it comes): the Self-Promotion forum.

Here is the link to those Guidelines: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90052
haha. I was wondering when we were gonna need this again given how tempting it is to self promote. Thanks Dr. Drib.
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Which has the inverse effect on available supplies. As long as you do not have too much of a brain drain to death, mass death makes survival/rebuilding easier.
Yeah, that always a big issue. However, I think the biggest issue is the incredible degree of specialization modern society has. Take a look at the last major collapse, which was the fall of the Roman empire. I was reading a while back that during their height, just before the fall, they had a high degree of specialization amongst the citizenry, which actually worked against them when everything fell apart. The people who actually did best were those with broad skillsets. It also meant that, with the mass die off of those with very specialized skills, you'd have a huge loss of knowledge as well, since knowledge usually transfers better between those with broader skillsets than those with narrow ones. I think if we had another major collapse like what Rome saw, you'd also see almost the exact same thing happen a second time with large groups of people dying off because their skillsets were very specialized, and thus they were unable to survive or adapt to the complex and challenging new order to things.
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You, and nearly everyone else. In a world without antibiotics, open wounds become potentially fatal. Pregnancies become dangerous, as well as simple fevers... chickenpox used to kill children.

And all of that adds up to reducing that over-population problem that others have mentioned already.
Agreed. It's just like what I mentioned to VydorScope, our current world system is ripe for a major die off should things collapse. Add to that the huge number of unhealthy people, those who are overweight (like me), the elderly, and all those with chronic or other critical illnesses. Today's world is very conducive to letting these people live for a really, really long time, far beyond what they would otherwise live in nature or a more rustic lifestyle. Technically, only the healthy and resourceful would survive. I qualify for the "resourceful" part, but sadly not for the healthy part.
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