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Old 03-08-2012, 12:42 AM   #197
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Originally Posted by bill_mchale View Post
Nope. There was an objective reality that preceded us, and will follow us. At least unless Quantum Mechanics is even weirder than anyone has imagined.

Our perception of reality may be subjective, but that does not mean reality itself is not objective. We act based on our perception, but only part of that perception is based on the actions of other people (and in some circumstances it might be only a very tiny bit).

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Bill
I'm not so sure. Does the universe exist without us thinking about its existence? Or rather does it exist apart from what it contains? I'm pretty sure there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies.

We BELIEVE we act based on our perception, but this does not mean that we are actually acting based on our perception. Free will cannot exist in other words. How much would "anothers" actions have to affect you before you BELIEVE that you are not acting objectively? I don't think we can measure that kind of thing, simply because we would have to measure to the end of the universe to get all the connections, and the universe is infinite. The neat thing is we don't have to measure, we simply realize that everything is connected and that it is all good.

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Originally Posted by QuantumIguana View Post
They most certainly do not. Timebanks are unequivocably money. The only difference between them and other forms of money is the basis for the money. Money might be based on precious metals, or might be based on faith in the economy, or it might, as in the case of a time bank, be based on labor. But it is still money.

It is just money with very real weaknesses.
I like timebanks, who needs money when you have time after all.
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