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Originally Posted by GeoffC
5:am is after dawn during the month of August, surely not the dead of night, ZP?
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since "dawn" = any time before W where "W" is a reasonable time to wake up, and 5 in the morning is so far from being a civilised waking hour it's comical (with a few rare exceptions always governed by the condition that you be "still" awake and not "already" awake), 5 am is therefore well before "dawn", in any month.
note that none of these "times" can be absolutely defined with a specific numerical / chronological value in the "everything is relative" slipstream of personal quasiperiodicity, however i can imagine no possible universe in which 5 o'clock could reasonably be considered a civilised hour for anything other than sleeping, with no plans to awake for several more hours.