Thread: Experience with tougher copyright laws in France
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:22 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by plib View Post
....At the most they seem to be likely to recover 165x1500 Euros... etc
Laws are not passed or enforced in order to break even. If that was the case, fines for almost any penalty would be astronomically high, in order to pay the enforcement budgets.

Governments are not for-profit entities -- and again, people routinely complain about instances where fines are a revenue source for a government, such as quotas on parking tickets. Fines are not levied to pay for enforcement, they are a form of punishment.

Would you genuinely prefer it if the Hadopi laws leveled a mandatory minimum fine of €100,000 for each convicted individual? Why stop at Hadopi? Why don't we make criminals pay the costs of their trial and incarcerations?

And much in the same way that the government protects your private property in exchange for tax revenues, media companies and retailers pay their taxes in exchange for their businesses to be protected.


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Originally Posted by plib
There's a reason both of the main opposition parties in next years French elections are committed to abolishing Hadopi.
One of the parties discussed in the article is the National Front, an extreme right-wing party that asserts zero tolerance for law enforcement, is anti-immigrant, wants to forcibly deport around 3 million people from France, espouses protectionism and wants to leave the EU. Their opposition to Hadopi is almost certainly due to political expediency rather than principle.

You may or may not like the Socialists, who ruled France for decades and nationalized numerous industries. Until recently they were led by Dominique Strauss-Kahn; I'll leave it to you to decide whether or not that reflects well on them.

You may want to be careful whom you cite as your allies in this matter.


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Originally Posted by plib
That is exactly what ACTA, SOPA/PIPA and C11 in Canada are designed to do - transfer the costs for protecting corporate profits from the corporate budget to the public budget.
So you prefer the system where the RIAA can sue individuals for tens of thousands of dollars for alleged copyright infringements?

I mean, really, what method of copyright enforcement would you support?
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