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Originally Posted by HansTWN
You crack me up, ask the workers in China if they prefer the current system of "capitalistic exploitation" or the old communist system under Mao. Except for some old party cadre who lost their privileges and some ex students who enjoyed beating up on the teachers during the cultural revolution you will not find any. Capitalism was the only thing that lifted living standards in South East Asia to the levels of today. All these countries seemed hopeless before foreign investment took off. And look at countries like the Philippines, which have been generally unfriendly to investors. The Philippines went from being the second richest country in Asia after WWII to falling way behind even China today.
In today's China the workers are in control. They have the pick of places to work at and after every Chinese New Year holiday up to 30% change to better paying jobs. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Workers at companies in the electronics industry routinely make 3-500 USD a month in real wages (the wages given are base wages, not take-home pay), they can eat and live at the factory. In China you easily save at least half of that. Wages have been going up around 20 to 30% every year for the last 5 years.
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No offense but I don't think you read very well, I have never said that workers are better off without capitalism there, nor did I say that the work of old was any better. I know for a fact that working at places like Foxconn, Pegatron, Quanta, ect. are far better than other places - otherwise those workers could go elsewhere, and yes they're pay is going to as good as it's allowed (again millions of people are replaceable). Sure the work conditions are rough and rather brutal in comparison to the standards we have elsewhere - but it is the best option available compared to other places.
What I did write and you failed to comprehend is that everyone is complaining about American corporate business practices in exploiting a obviously cheaper and more profitable means of production, and that blaming 1 singular company is ridiculous. The overall issue that everyone seems to gripe about is a general practice of international outsourcing - if anyone wants to make such things better - they would have to acknowledge that and hold outsourcing to questionable countries like China, where there really isn't any standards of quality or human rights. IF you want to have a device made in a better place with better care for their workers, then it has to be at least outsourced elsewhere.
The workers have some power, but don't be naive in thinking that if a lot of them leave or protest - that it would matter. The businesses and the government are about cash plain and simple. Anyone is replaceable.
So apparently you don't know how to read, or know what your talking about.
