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ProfCrash · 02-15-2012, 02:59 PM

I see, so because Apple was connected to a factory where some bad stuff happened that the factory owner, Chinese government, and local leaders were not able to hide from the international media, Apple is evil.

So the fact that the same practices are happening at other factories that have not exploded, or been reported as having exploded, or had reports of the deaths is ok to overlook.

All we are saying, is that yes it is bad that Apple products are made in these conditions and it would be good for those conditions to change.

We add to that, Apple is not the only company who is supporting these practices, they are simply the biggest one who has been investigated.

I add (I won't speak for others on this one) that if we want Apple, and the other companies to change their behavior, then consumers have to stop buying those products. As long as we buy those products, Apple and Amazon (who has been tied to many of the same factories as Apple) they have no financial reason to try and change anything. Given that corporations are more interested in profit then ethics, they are not going to pressure anyone to change squat until their profits are hurt.

Nike and assorted companies did not put pressure for the work environment to change until people stopped, or more accuretly slowed down, buying their products. When it became a PR problem and an economic problem, they made an effort to change.

Apple is not going to change squat because it is morally right. Apple will change things when they are not making as much money. Same goes for Amazon and other electronic companies.

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I see, so because Apple was connected to a factory where some bad stuff happened that the factory owner, Chinese government, and local leaders were not able to hide from the international media, Apple is evil. So the fact that the same practices are happening at other factories that have not exploded, or been reported as having exploded, or had reports of the deaths is ok to overlook. All we are saying, is that yes it is bad that Apple products are made in these conditions and it would be good for those conditions to change. We add to that, Apple is not the only company who is supporting these practices, they are simply the biggest one who has been investigated. I add (I won't speak for others on this one) that if we want Apple, and the other companies to change their behavior, then consumers have to stop buying those products. As long as we buy those products, Apple and Amazon (who has been tied to many of the same factories as Apple) they have no financial reason to try and change anything. Given that corporations are more interested in profit then ethics, they are not going to pressure anyone to change squat until their profits are hurt. Nike and assorted companies did not put pressure for the work environment to change until people stopped, or more accuretly slowed down, buying their products. When it became a PR problem and an economic problem, they made an effort to change. Apple is not going to change squat because it is morally right. Apple will change things when they are not making as much money. Same goes for Amazon and other electronic companies.