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Old 02-08-2012, 09:38 AM   #111
GreenMonkey
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Originally Posted by CyGuy View Post
That does not make sense. An ebook file and a DVD movie are both digital files, one is on polycarbonate and one is on magnetic media (or SSD, etc). The rules are EXACTLY the same as far as ownership goes.
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by ApK
Not at all. You can resell or give away the DVD. The rules of nature say that if you give the DVD (or the paperback, or the widget) to someone, you no longer have it and they, do, and you can only do that once, so the laws and rules concerning it take that into consideration. But if you downloaded the movie without the DVD, eg, in digital form only, like an ebook, then the vendors use DRM and modification of the licenses term to make up for the absence of the protection that the laws of nature give them over a physical object. Otherwise it would be too cheap and easy to make million copies and distributed them. (That's the theory anyway. The fact that it's current implementation is ineffective, and unfair, and causes more inconvenience than it offers protection is the real issue, not the theory, which is valid.)
I can make a copy of the DVD just as easily as I can make a copy of an MP3.

The "rules of nature"? What does that even mean? The applicable rule here is called the "First Sale Doctrine". They tried this license away the individual right to sell or dispose of your property before, and it failed.

Unfortunately I don't think the court system is as good about such decisions these days..partially due to the burden of laws like the DMCA.

Redigi is in a different situation - the lack of DRM on audio files is helping them out - no violation of the DMCA to copy the files.
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