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Old 02-06-2012, 04:49 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey View Post
I'm unwilling to substitute my rights to own property for a "license".
You never had any rights to any ebook, any movie, any IP, other than what the creator and the law gave you. Having someone make content for you to consume is not a natural right.

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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey View Post
Pretty soon a DVD will have a disclaimer on it that says "this is only a license".
They ALREADY DO SAY THAT! Always have. You're not buying the movie or the software on that DVD! You're licensing the right to use it privately with many restrictions. You own the piece of polycarbonate, you don't own the content.

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Or a car - "You don't own this car
By your logic, you don't. Once all the oil is gone and there is no more gas, that care is useless to you, unless you hack it...so you must be "renting it from the oil companies" right?

Nonsense.

There are terms and restrictions and limits of some kind on almost everything. Don't try to redefine reality just because you happen to dislike the particular terms on a particular kind of thing. Just work to get the terms fixed.


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Maybe it's because I am a history geek. Maybe I've had too many American history classes. But giving up my right to own property and to have rights associated with that cannot be removed just by calling everything a "license".

Pretending everything is just a limited "license" and restricting our right to use our property is a key part of how they keep getting away with DRM.
Should have worked some civics and law classes in between your history classes. IP laws are here because we want them to be. Like with many things, some forces have swung the pendulum way too far (I think) to one side's favor in those laws, and we need to swing it back, but not by acting like we're suddenly surprised that we license IP.

ApK

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