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Old 06-08-2008, 06:03 AM   #56
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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan View Post
Actually, it's not a matter of breaking it. As Ricky also pointed out, you could always burn a CD, and that was within iTunes' system.
And I couldn't turn that CD back into a MP3 - at least not legally.
Nevertheless: Seen any eBook-DRM-Format resently that gave you at least the freedom of the iTunes-DRM? So .. whats your point exactly?

I could say that a DRM is meaningless to me, because I can just circumvent it. But a format I have to change in order to be able to use it ... it is just not worth its money. No really, it isn't. And iTunes is just that - a format I have to change in order to use it. And you are actually stating nothing else - because you can convert it to a DRM-free solution, iTunes is nice. Yeah. Ten brownie points to Apple - here's my response: Leave DRM out complete. Noone needs it, it gives no security whatsoever - and it annoys customers. It would save you even that 5min needed to burn/rip the CD and it wouldn't cost anybody any money.
Gives some ideas about ebooks ...

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was that the audience had already accepted DRM, considering the advantages of iTunes service as outweighing the discomfort of security. Same with Amazon.
No, they actually didn't. I know a drekload of people who didn't use iTunes for DRM-reasons (including me). And most people (I know) didn't accept DRM - they just circumvented it. So .. where's the DRM acceptance in that?
AND the iTunes software is crap - the system would be so much more valuable if it wasn't tied to this software...

The same with most other MP3-dealers. I don't use the "Internet Explorer" or the "Windows Media Player" (don't want to go through the hazzle installing it via Wine) - so I can't buy there. *sigh* That's one more customer who would buy the music, if they wanted his money..
And no - I haven't bough much new music since it became illegal to rip a CD. (I didn't pirate it either, but I just got old CDs without that restriction and spent much less money).


Regarding the "its them vs us"-point ... Most people I know either didn't care about the license holders (talking about music and film) or had a relatively good opinion of them. Since they started their brain-dead "no copying"-CDs (actually violating the CD-standard), their hunt of DVD-players (we are not talking about copying a DVD but of playing it on a non-standard OS), their "copyright pirates are criminals"-ads (on a legally bought DVD, the first 5min (non-jumpable) some drek-ad about 'pirating a media' - I just bought that DVD, why do you bother me with that?), their 'copyright violations should be hunted more seriously and easier then child molaters'-attitude towards new laws, etc (I think you all know the approaches the industrie used, their hate-grown speeches and their brain-dead 'a customer is an enemy'-attitude) this has changed.
Most people I know, now have a "they are the enemy"-attitude towards the industrie. They actually have a PR worse then the one of the oil-industrie or the weapon-industrie (and that means something in Germany). And ... no-one I know trusts them any more. Some people wouldnt even put a CD/DVD in their PC any more (and of course not buy one too) because they fear getting infected with a new virus or root-kit (and Sony demonstrated that they would do this. I never found out who they paid, so they wouldn't get put in jail for that. Computer sabotage is a crime...)

And quite recently publishers are starting to go the same way ... They should think twice if they really want to go that way.
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