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Originally Posted by pilotbob
Some facts here are a little squed:
"Google says it will scan copyright protected books from libraries unless the publisher or copyright holder expressly opts out. If the book is copyright protected, there is minimal text, only a few sentences, or "snippets," surrounding the keywords searched. There are no ads on Google Library Project pages."
So, they are not showing the whole work... which seems like fair use. Also, contrary to what you said Taylor, there are NO ADS on pages with copyrighted works scanned from a Library.
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The are not SHOWING the whole work, but they have SCANNED the entire work. That's a copyright violation. Prove it isn't. Copyright is NOT opt out. Copyright is opt in. The copyright holder has legal rights, and doesn't have to "opt out" of every potential violation of those rights.
Case closed.
There are no ads on the "Library Project Pages". Big deal. There ARE ads on Google's search results page, as I explained above, and those ads are keyword driven from illegally obtained content, including the entirety of copied books. That is not fair use.
Re: publishing partner, that's a sop, and doesn't address previously published works which are still under copyright.
I will also fall back on the fact that all of the above are modifications Google made after the fact, which proves that they are perfectly willing to do whatever they want and only make changes if people make enough noise.