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Old 01-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #2
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Here is a snippet from the IRC channel about this thread and its corresponding new wiki:

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09:44 < geekmstr> Hello all. After recent experiences I have had with with PMs and such, 
                  where I gave details on how to exacly solve their problem, but then I got a 
                  reply saying they did not wait for a reply but pressed random keys in the 
                  diag ment and now their kindle has a blank screen and rebooting does not 
                  help, I have decided it is time for the forum to have two new items.
09:45 < geekmstr> We need first of all a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) which is a sticky 
                  similar to the list of hacks, where the first post gets updated with new 
                  questions and answers gathered from the forums.
09:46 < geekmstr> We also need a "Newbies Guide to Kindle Develpment" in a wiki, so all can 
                  bring their different areas of expertise into the mix to help improve that 
                  knowledge base.
09:47 < geekmstr> There is a recent influx of people to the forums who want to add features 
                  to their new kindles, and google pretty much takes them to the mobileread 
                  developer's corner, and perhaps a few other places that eventually lead 
                  here.
09:48 < geekmstr> They need a single common entry point so they do not all have to begin by 
                  asking us variations of the same questions.
09:49 < geekmstr> We can now give them a simple answer saying to read the Newbies Guide 
                  first, then if they have questions to consult the FAQ, then if still have 
                  questions ask them in the forum.
09:49 < geekmstr> I will be busy for awhile. Who wishes to begin this task?
09:49 < jerojasro> geekmstr: if you can point me to the forums with info about development, 
                   I'll "wikify" them
09:49 < jerojasro> and put them in https://wiki.mobileread.com/
09:55 < geekmstr> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=150
09:56 < geekmstr> Kindle Developers Corner forum ^^^
09:56 < geekmstr> jerojasro: may I include your comments above when I copy my above 
                  comments to the forum?
10:01 < jerojasro> geekmstr: talk about drinking from a firehose ;)
10:24 < geekmstr> here is the new thread announcing the empty wiki I just created:
10:25 < geekmstr> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=1907936
10:25 < geekmstr> It links to the wiki.
10:25 < geekmstr> Please feel free to give it some style and some starting content.
10:56 < GID> I've just added some info about USBnet for Kindle 4 (that is what I started 
             with). Tell if it what you are mean to see on this page
10:57 < geekmstr> We can always reorganize and consolidate wiki information later. Just about 
                  anything is better that what I started with.
10:58 < geekmstr> I need to get some work done now. I just thought I should open a new door 
                  for new forum members who want to add stuff to their new kindle christmas 
                  presents...
10:59 < geekmstr> This recent influx could suck a lot of time away from kindle development, 
                  and a wiki (and an FAQ we need to add) should deflect a lot of that.
11:00 < geekmstr> Questions that are too uninformed, or replies asking for more detail, 
                  should be directed to the wiki.
11:03 < geekmstr> GID: when the page gets too big we can split individual topics off into 
                  separate pages.
11:06 < geekmstr> It should support all kindle models. It can even have a link to Kindle Fire 
                  development to be maintained by those interested in that.
11:07 < geekmstr> If android ever gets ported to the Fire, there could be crossover between 
                  the touch and the fire.
15:10 < geekmstr> P.S. please keep adding SIMPLE stuff to the newbies guide, with links to 
                  the more advanced pages you are creating. Thanks...
15:12 < geekmstr> Newbies guide should say kindle runs linux, and difference between signed 
                  kindlet hacks and native apps such, and perhaps mention optware using ipkg, 
                  and the bigger debian repository using apt-get.
15:12 < geekmstr> But need to start with basics such as what to type at an SSH command line 
                  prompt. Many are GUI only these days.
15:13 < geekmstr> This is for all kindles and not all can take advantage of touch features 
                  like the GUI launcher.
15:13 < geekmstr> But we certainly DO want the GUI launcher in there too.
15:14 < geekmstr> This is just an entry point for beginners into the larger Kindle Developer 
                  "Scene", to give them enough knowledge so they can ask intelligent 
                  questions and understand the replies...
15:14 < geekmstr> I (and others) have spent too much time giving answers that are not 
                  followed or not understood.
15:15 < geekmstr> We need the guide to start with a warning to not just do random stuff in 
                  developer mode. And not press random keys in diagnostics mode.
15:16 < geekmstr> So, keep up the great work guys, and add simple intros and links for your 
                  other detailed pages to the newbies guide. 
15:16 < geekmstr> Thanks.
15:19 < geekmstr> *** also, pages linked to FROM the newbies guide should probably start with 
                  an intro, which says "if the following information is too technical for 
                  you, please read the Newbies Guide to Kindle Development first", and follow 
                  that with a link.
15:20 < geekmstr> We have a recent influx of people with kindle christmas presents that want 
                  to do stuff they see people doing on androids and ipads. We do not want to 
                  mislead them into bricking their new toys with their lack of knowledge"...

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