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Old 12-04-2011, 08:49 AM   #35
bobisekmilky
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Device: PocketBook 903
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Hello,
I am sorry for writing English, I am able to read your German posts, but I would hardly express myslef in German.
I have just another comment to the note-taking function. May be the more datailed comment helps to develop things properly. In fact, I do not see, what can be a trouble with programming the proper note-taking function. It's in fact nothing more than a text editor around the existing marking function.
So what my disappointment about this marking function instead of note-taking function is about?
I have bought the PB903 specially because of its note-taking function. I am greatly surprised it is so rare function in e-book readers, but as I understood from numerous reviews, common folk does not need it. But PB903 is presented as a professional device.
I do not know, who is meant by professional, but in relation to reading I would expect it to be a journalist or a scholar. For both of these, the fundamental property of a paper book is its margin. There one can comfortably write numerous comments (in my case different types of comments on each - right and left - margin) with a pencil.
So in case of a professional e-book reader one would expect that it can facilitate such a function, i.e. provide the same capabilities as a paper book or article - the possibility of commenting selected passages of the text. But since the device is electronic, one can expect it to provide this functionality with advantages of an electronic device. By that I mean that one could expect such a text-marking function, which is now in the device, and which copies the selected text to a separate file, with a further possibility to write (with the help of inbuilt keyboard) his own comments to these marked passages of the text in this separate file. One more thing one would expect: to be able to locate and rename such text files and to save them to one's computer to be able to work with them further. One would expect this, because it is precisely what is called simply "reading", or interacting with a text. If I cannot do this, I simply cannot read with the help of the device anything but daily news.
From some reviews, including the review on note-taking in PB360, I expected that this somewhat more sophisticated editor of .txt files will be present and fully working in the PB903. I don't really understand why it is not. I really do not understand what technically is so difficult about combining text-marking (or precisely text-copying) function with text-editing function. And I am also seriously thinking about sending the device back to a seller. Because not having this note-taking function it does not provide - for a professional - real reading function. Which turns it to a quite expensive toy - nice but useless.
Milan
I need to apologize to PocketBook for my previous comment. After further exploration of the note-taking function I have found that already with the fw2.0.4 it is much more sophisticated. I had not realized before that by pressing the stylus for few seconds the context menu pops up and in this case makes some more operations possible.
First of all, the particular note can be maximised this way, which means that the full length of the copied passage is shown. By pressing again this quotation for few seconds one is offered the possibility to edit it. So the comment can be attached to the quote. So this works well.
Some troubles remain however:
1) it seems there is no possibility to export these notes into the computer. Or to be more precise. It is not possible if one makes them in Adobeviewer. It is different when one makes them in Pdfviewer. The notes from Pdfviewer can be opened in a computer either with e-book reading application or with a web broeser - it is html file. On the other hand, these are hardly accessed and editable in the PB903 device itself. They are hidden somewhere and one can locate them only by using a search engine. In a computer I can see them in the folder called "notes", but this folder is either a different folder from that which is called "notes" in the device, or another possibility is that it is the same folder, but the computer does not see the content created by note-taking application in Adobeviewer and sees only that from Pdfviewer, while the device sees the Adobeviewer notes, but not pdfviewer ones. But some other hypothesis is also possible.
2) The second trouble is that quotations form the pdf document are made only as pictures, not as text. It is strange, because the search engine of the device is apparently able to search through the text layer of pdfs. But the note-taking apllication works with it only as with picture. This is in fact not so important in case when, anyway, the notes cannot be exported to the computer. But at the moment this bug is removed and notes will be exportable, this feature will hinder the possibilities of further work with notes - for example their inclusion in the software for the analysis of qualitative data (for such inclusion it is necessary to have the document in .txt or .rtf format).
3) The third problem is connected to navigation. In order to edit quotation comfortably it is necessary that I can simply move to a note from the open book after creating it. But at the moment I need to go to the main menu, to notes, to a particular notebook and to a particular note in it. Just after that I can start to edit the note, ie. to write my comment to it. This process is too long. It is fine that one can move nicely from the quotation in a notebook back to a book. But for the full functionality it is necessary that I can move from the selected passage in book into the same passage in a notebook in order to edit it. Facilitating this two-way movement from note to a book and from book to a note would make real time interaction with a text possible.
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