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Originally Posted by Lobolover

yes.youve surely done worse things then crushing a newborns head against a stone.

Really? Baby...head...stone? Is that it? Not exactly toe-curling in this context, is it? Nice opening though, I'm sure (if only it made any sense).

Sorry,but that just shows your lack of knowledge/inteligence.

Ahh, sweetie, rather than rushing in with your odd grammar to berate my intelligence, why don't you take more than knee-jerk reaction to actually look through the thread. You might have noted my suggestion that I believe "it's a personal view of the worst books" that was intended, rather than stupidly declared a count on my knowledge or IQ. To suggest that someone is somehow an idiot for not appreciating literature that you do appreciate shows that you're demonstrating a rather shallow tolerance for other people's views.

If you don't like it,fine,but im afraid you haven't the right to say its "the worst".

I have every right to say it's "the worst". All of it that I have read (and I have read far more than you so oh-so-dramatically assume) was some of the worst fiction I have read, anytime. Someone here found partial redemption in inadvertent humour, but not even that could compensate for the dullness of H.P.Lovecraft for me. For me it is of the worst.

ctualy,the wery idea of this thread is biased

Well, of course it is biased (by which I assume you mean "subjective"). We have been asked our subjective opinions of the worst books we have read. Of course people are going to have different "worsts". Of course people are going to disagree. Which leads to...

and will lead only into conflict,cause someone, who has barely even read something will go on bloody hell for being it "such crap".

The difference is, almost no-one here has stated their disagreement with the seriously angry vitriol of the "You are stupid" kind, which is what you have done. If that's how you regularly comport yourself, no wonder you blame the thread for causing "conflict". I suggest you keep out of them, because you're always going to find "conflict", and getting angry and telling someone they're unintelligent reflects more on yourself than them.

Mr. whatever your name is

My name is "Marc". It's on the bottom of all my posts. It's on the bottom of the post you replied to. You know what it is.The dismissive "Whatever your name is" as an attempted insult is just silly.

Dunsany,Chambers,Howard,Smith,Merritt-writers who (except of Chambers) all acknowledged Lovecraft.Writers of "modern" horor,like Gaiman,Barker or even King say what a master he is.

Which is great. Iris Murdoch is almost universally praised for her philosophy and novels, and rightly so, by people far more knowledgeable and intelligent than myself (and, I daresay, you). Nevertheless The Sea The Sea was tripe to me. Most people here, with rationality rather than angry insult at their side, understand that my opinions might be in contrast to those more learned, and will pick the "winning side". It won't change my opinion though, and that book, and H.P.Lovecraft, will remain on my list unless I read something more execrable in future.

So if EVERY single authority on horror says it IS good,youre qualified to judge-what?How many sucesfull world spaning books/stories have you writen till today?

I am qualified to judge the books I have read as being good and bad, yes. Whether my opinion reflects those of other people is neither here nor there in that judgement, any more than people can tell me how brilliant Tom Waits is - I still can't listen to the miserable bugger. Dr. Dribs, the initial beginner of this thread, asked for your list of the "10 Worst Books" you have read. I gave mine, in full understanding it was "one man's opinion". I rightly didn't expect serious personal attack and insult (though I fully expected disagreement), and, as expected, I got disagreement (and acknowledged it), and, as expected, didn't get serious personal attack and insult...

...except from you.

(sorry for the angry tone,but this is just a syndrom of "tardness",like I had the misfortune of meeting at NF-people saying "Ive never read it,but its sh*t")

See, sweetie, this is where you fall on your face. Almost every book on my list (obviously I haven't read every Piers Anthony book, nor every H.P.Lovecraft story - when I hit my thumb with a hammer, I stop hammering) I have read, front to back. You finish here, (is that meant to be "tardiness"?) insulting my intelligence by broadbrushing me with the premise that I haven't read what I've judged.

You are just wrong.

I realy think this should be closed.it'l just bring people to bicker.

Really? You disagree with someone's opinion; close the thread. Is that how you think it should go on the forum? It brought you here to "bicker" and insult - it bought others here to disagree and discuss. The problem is with you and not the thread.

So, here's the dealy, mate. Have you ever heard the phrase "Everything was going just fine until you came in"? Well, there you are.

You seriously insult my intelligence. You accuse me of not having read what I've put forth an opinion of. You dismiss any of my opinions, not with your own, but with the elitist catchall of "smarter people than you...". I don't expect you to agree. I don't mind if you strongly disagree. I don't mind if you vehemently disagree.

However, don't let the sum total of your rejection be your half-arsed, barely readable spray of anti-grammatical, ad hominem slur and inaccuracy. Them's fightin' words, and I might not be as intelligent as "Every single authority on horror", but as sure as hell is as black as my heart I am good at fighting words, and in your corner you don't look like you're up for a single round against some bloodthirsty, cheating, biting, screaming, suckerpunching, brassknuckle verbiage.

See, you're flailing-angry. As at this time, I am "restrained".

Yours most sincerely,
Marc (this is my name - if you choose to use "Mr." then the surname is "Lawrence", but my first name has always been here to use rather than pejoratively dismiss)