Thanks yet again - you are right, sort was not too good, I will make do with the 0, for better sorting ability. I am going to look at those examples and hit the tutorials again, I really want to learn how to use this *more*.
Andyou are being really unfair to War and Peace
And I think a lot of this IT documentation and guides, have unbeatable entropy, at least with W&P i feel like I get a chance if I try to tackle it on my own!