have found it fun to try and research, linux people are kinda hads going, one found it a bit pathetic and mentioned pfid, further search got me closer to that pid line.. once I mentioned that, a couple people mentioned i had the parameters wrong and should be like this / that heh.. sigh

is a very non newbie friendly society purely based on irc chan.. like dont get me wrong, very nice people

just heh.. feel like I did when I was starting out 3d 16 years ago or so

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