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Old 06-10-2011, 07:05 PM   #122
Prestidigitweeze
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I think there are real differences that transcend setting and some that are fashion. We can exaggerate or minimize.
My point is that you and I aren't objective about the anthropology of gender and therefore aren't in a position to know what we "exaggerate or minimize." Culture and its patterns of association tend to make the artificial appear natural and therefore normative.

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However, some masculine and feminine behaviors are either learned or capable/worthy of reinforcement. This is the idea behind the rules of chivalry and Emily Post.
I'm not quite getting why you've brought up the history of chivalry and etiquette, which are (a) a completely different topic, (b) actually prove my point about cultural artificiality if you look at the conventions pitilessly (C.S. Lewis's Allegory of Love is a good place to start), and (c) aren't subjects about which one necessarily displays ignorance simply by pointing out our arbitrary notions of gender.

Re your idea about the biological/evolutionary bases of chivalry (if I understand you correctly): You could probably find and read evolutionary psychologists who agree with you on this, but I doubt you'll warm to certain unchivalrous pronouncements they tend to make in tandem with that theory.

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