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Vols fan, eh?  |
Hehe well they have kept life interesting lately
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Well, yes and no. There are some aspects of it that, frankly, don't matter to most people and never will. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I tend to be one of them in practice, but I'm not using it for citations, I'm using it to get an idea of how much I'm reading.
Calibre page counts are from a file markup analysis and are merely a convenience feature - one which I happen to use and like very much. It's not meant to duplicate Amazon's implementation, and it's not meant to be exact.
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Everything you say above is true. To be honest I was using the page numbers for an example as much as anything. Everything that I read about the mobi format seems to indicate that there are issues with TOC as well as other formatting programs. As you correctly point out calibre page counts are for convenience, but due to the format, arent actually stored in the mobi file.
Most people wont notice any of this, but I noticed all of this, because I wanted to see pages left in chapter, which aren't feasible on mobi format, then I strugged forever to get chapter marks to show up on a converted epub through calibre (now Ive figured it out and its really easy
), then I had to figure out why some of my converted epubs showed page numbers and why some did not. And it was because sometimes I had my kindle plugged in transferring files and sometimes I used the @kindle.com address which wont generate/keep page numbers.
In all of this I found that I found epub easier to disect due to xml etc and think its time for a similar mobi format, although as I said earlier with the same DRM scheme
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For specific pinpointing of part of a text, it's all about locations, locations, locations.
Is this actually true? Forget the calibre part for a moment, because those books have locations too, regardless of their page count status. To my knowledge, the nature of locations should make them consistent across devices. I mean, that's how Whispersync syncs furthest read and bookmarks. Can someone actually verify that the same book downloaded to different device versions (K1, K2, K3) show different results?
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Yea they all sync up fine. The point was that the older firmware showed locations of 1214-1216. Newer K3 format appears to have abandoned the location range for a single value (maybe 1213), and if you hold your head right newer k3s MAY show pages as well as location.
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All that aside, I do agree with your gripe about the TOC/chapter marker thing. Obviously it's too complicated because few publishers/indies seem to be doing it properly. Either that, or they don't care to do it properly. (I've done it, and I personally don't think it's that hard, but I'm not a publisher.  )
So I guess my gripe on that isn't so much the mobi spec as it is the fact that people aren't using it. |
Mobipocket created the format in 2000 and the format has aged relatively well but I think its time for amazon to embrace xml and make publishing mobi content easier. I think the title of the thread was harsher than I intended though.