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(I hope you enjoy reading this insane post as much as I’ve enjoyed writing it. Great piece of drama if you're bored and have nothing else to read.)
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It was, and enlightening as well. Like Sherlock Holmes swooping in at the end of Hound of the Baskervilles and explaining what was going on. However, there are still loose ends...
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It’s like robbing a food bank. At a food bank, the food is handed out freely and gladly, but you are still expected to wait in line like a civilized human being. (And after all that brouhaha, where's jcase now? He hasn't even cared what was going on in the rest of the forum, or participate much, except in the new Development forum, and that only for a short period.)
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Uh, not really. Entourage isn't (and shouldn't be!) a charity, and the requirements of the GPL don't require waiting in line for five months plus for source code. A better analogy would be the food bank's creditors showing up one night and demanding that their massively delinquent loans be paid back. Some observers would probably find that in bad taste, but the creditors' behavior is understandable. The food bank opened themselves up to this when they took out loans they had no intention of paying back on time.
And in point of fact, jcase just posted today in the Development forum. He's also responsible for finding the easy root of the Edge that garnered the first positive blog post about the Edge on Engadget. He has said he's going to help robot and others with the custom firmware and market access stuff, but he's busy with work he's actually getting paid for.
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walt526 misspoke in a post, a couple of members jumped all over him for being an enTourage agent.
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Given the nature of that misspeaking was that he said he was an Entourage employee, I'm not sure what your issue is. How dare I accuse him of being an Entourage employee when all he did was...say he was an Entourage employee.
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Meanwhile, I've been working on figuring out if (and how) I can deal with problem people on these exceptionally civilized and friendly forums, and the sometimes stupid or rude things that are said (and I don't mean questions, as people seeking help never ask stupid questions). I have the problem of being too passionate on one hand, and having been unable to deal with dispersions on the object of my passion on the other hand. I care too much, you could say.
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Yes, it's hard to know when to shut up, as you say.
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So, I have to decide if I want to ignore posts that I find offensive (and let other members flame them), or if instead I want to unleash such a flame firestorm on them that the poster will be coughing up ashes from what's left of their sorry backside (I rather like that turn of phrase...). The latter, of course, isn't really an option, as I myself will get kicked out of these forums. Perhaps if we all petitioned the admins to ban them by reporting their posts as offensive, that would be the way to handle it in a civilized manner?
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There is a happy medium...you can try to respond rationally to them, or more harshly if it's a consistent abuser (without crossing the line into flame territory). I don't think I like the idea of trying to get someone banned for merely being "offensive"...violations of specific rules like posting personal information, mounting personal attacks, etc obviously should be reported, but fora whose members have to walk on eggshells to avoid offending the most sensitive members get just as sterile and useless as ones that become cesspools due to weak moderation. Also, since you say even harsh criticism of the Edge or Entourage -- not just of individual people-- offends you, that certainly shouldn't be grounds for banning or post deletion.
I guess the only question remaining is...why did you delete your posts? Doing that made it look like you had something to hide, or you were trying to show how important you were by taking your ball and going home.