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Old 09-02-2010, 12:50 PM   #41
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PonMan, LOL. Sorry, but it's so lamish....
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We want to eventually support paid apps as well as the free ones, but ...
Didn't You thought that _at first_, you need at least to make an option to SELL apps on Your market?

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but there would be very high resistance for a developer to put his paid app on our store if our device ships rooted.
Tell me this developer's name ) At first, try to find developers who really interested in creating serious apps for EE (which still sold less than 100.000 devices? correct me if I wrong ), and (or at least) give them SDK envirement or debugging control. Be real. EE has so small market share that there's no interest to create exclusive apps... You lucky that you use android, and lucky that android is an uniform platform which allow you to run apps designed for other devices on EE. As for me (as an example)... I haven't commercial interesting in market (standalone site or devices) unless it sale more than 10.000 paid apps per day (or if there's some special interest or underground agreements).

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if our device ships rooted.
You need to learn difference between rooted and rootable devices.

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It would be too easy to steal.
LOL, it takes 5 minute to:
a) download apk, from your site WITHOUT using EE.
b) or to copy paid apk from devices
c) or to copy installed apps.
and it takes another 2 minutes to:
a) patch odx/apk,
b) or to patch firmware.
c) to install in private envirement
And all those steps doesn't requre root.

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So we're now doing what every single phone does when they ship
LOL, So EE is the PHONE??? Why there's no google market then?
Phone ships blocked for simple reason: to not allow users to use phone as mobile hotspot (internet sharing). And to protect phone from dumb users. In first case they also patch some internal code to block tethering bu default. In second case they leave some options to enable adb for advanced users (voiding warranty by enabling it).

P.S. yip, it's not problem to root device. But it's takes time. Not much time, but it makes me upset, as time mean money. So when you steel time from developers, developers pushing you, which lead again to some problems, when you need to spend your time on us like in the case with GPL code (by the way, where's new revision?)...

So what the point? It all makes me think that there's some people in EE CEO which just do not understand how things done
Time to fire someone
p.s. To EE CEO: nothing personal, just business