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I have recently joined a writing group and in that group I have been fairly sucessful at writing things off the cuff. However when I sit down to write an extended piece I really struggle. I started one before I started the writing group, I became uninterested and didn't know where exactly I was taking it. I started a new story, I thought I would try a short story, but it soon fell apart as I saw plot holes a mile off in my own work and the whole world disintigrated under it's own weight. I never know exactly where to take the stories and I guess some people would say "well write a plan" but I just have an idea for something and never know exactly where it's headed. Do you write plans?

Help! I am willing to post the stories if you like, what I have of them anyway but I don't think either will be kept.