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Old 05-13-2011, 01:14 PM   #136
Greg Anos
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Originally Posted by leebase View Post
You linked to one article that makes HUGE cause/effect leaps, ignores HUGE relevant "likely causal facts". It's an opinion piece that you agree with. It's not proof of anything.



Who posited that? Offering up a red herring are we?



You are foisting off a red herring -- the notion that those arguing for the value of copyright are therefore arguing in favor of all aspects of copyright from the past unto today.

Not so. As you have correctly pointed out, the origins of the British copyright model were not about economics but about censorship and government control of ideas. Lumping those notions in with copyright as it was instituted in America and how it's used today is spurious to begin with.

Also, your historical facts support what today's copyright supports claim. Without copyright there is vast plagarism. That was true even back then and would be orders of magnitude more relevant today.

Yes, with copyright prices are higher. That's the VIRTUE of copyright, not a problem with copyright. The virtue of copyright allows there to be income from more than just direct labor. Beethoven could make money from teaching piano, of course. But with copyright, he could make money from creating a symphony -- and not just from his own performance of said symphony.

Today we have BOTH copyright AND the free exchange of ideas. Anyone who wants to put their work into the public domain can do so. Thanks to copyright, those who wish to control their creations and be paid for them can do so as well.Your one link to a paper that tries to put all the differences between Germany and Britain on copyright is full of holes. Self evidently flawed.

Lee
That's not true any more. Technology has rendered the ability to control a creation into a very limited thing. You can only control obvious commercial exploitation of copyright, where there is enough money to be worth fighting over, but at the individual, non-commercial level, all control is lost.

Sorry, those are the facts. This does not preclude people buying copyrighted material, but buying has become a choice, not a necessity.
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