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Old 04-27-2011, 07:29 PM   #452
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Originally Posted by Worldwalker View Post
You missed Stonetools' constant drumbeat of "You can't succeed, the pirates are stopping you, it's not what you're doing, it's all the pirates, the people on MobileRead are helping them, the pirates will keep you from ever succeeding, it's all the pirates' fault." If there is anyone to blame for Steve's ragequit, it's Stonetools and his incessant "give up, the pirates are winning" routine. And he got exactly what he wanted, too.
Thanks. I went back and skimmed a few pages, I see what you mean.

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OK, I'm willing to backtrack here and admit that I overstated my argument about DRM.I believe that I was responding to a poster that claimed that DRM had nothing to do with copyright. I responded to that overstatement with an overstatement of my own.
I agree that there can be legit personal reasons for breaking DRM. The premier example is Xenophon's own- the company that goes out of business and leaves consumers in the lurch with a defunct DRM scheme. I think that its legal to break DRM in that case.
Cant just admit DRM is a horrible idea can you? It shouldnt be illegal to break it. It shouldnt even exist. You speak of it being allowed if the company goes under, alright, what of an example I used in another thread? The computer goes under? You have one authorized to read on a certain computer, said computer crashes. You saved the book but you cant authorize your new computer so you cant read the book. Is it legal then? Why are we even quibbling with this? You really think someone cares about something like that after a computer crash? 'Oh, let me go buy it back from the publisher for the exact same price even though I already bought it once'. In the words of my old 6th grade History teacher. 'Let me think about that for a second. Uh, no.' Not everybody is out to break the law sir. Not everyone wants to rip DRM off to 'share' it. Some just want to rip the DRM off to read the book they just purchased because, for one reason or another, the DRM has made it impossible to view the book. But yet you have no sympathy for that man who lost his computer and book. Well, hell have no sympathy for you as he downloads it somewhere for free and you start whining about how hes a pirate.

Question is, are they really pirates if they already paid for the goods? I think not.
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